Devotions

Let Your Love Be Real

Have you ever had someone smile at you, say all the right words, and you just knew they didn’t mean a bit of it? Paul has something to say about that kind of love. His message is simple but challenging: let it be real.

What Does the Bible Say About Genuine Love?

Romans 12:9-10 lays it out clearly: “Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil and hold fast to what is good. Love one another with brotherly affection and outdo one another in showing honor.” – Romans 12:9-10

Paul wrote these words to a church he had never visited. He had never walked through the doors in Rome, never sat with the congregation. But he knew they were in a difficult situation, and he knew exactly what they needed to hear.

Why Was the Roman Church Struggling to Love Each Other?

The church in Rome was made up of both Jews and Gentiles, and they did not agree on how to live out their faith. At one point, the Emperor had expelled the Jews from Rome entirely. While they were gone, the church kept growing, filled now with Gentile believers. When the Jews were eventually allowed to return, they came back with expectations. They said the Gentiles needed to be circumcised and follow kosher laws. The Gentiles, who had been enjoying their freedom in Christ, pushed back hard.

You can imagine how difficult it would be to genuinely love each other in a room like that.

How to Love People You Disagree With

1. Let Your Love Be Authentic, Not Performative

Paul’s first instruction is straightforward: let your love be real. Not a polite “bless your heart.” Not a smile that doesn’t reach your eyes. Genuine love.

When love isn’t real, people sense it. Trust breaks down. Relationships become awkward and hollow. Everyone starts wondering what the other person actually thinks.

Paul’s answer to this problem is to treat each other like family. “Love one another with brotherly affection.” – Romans 12:10

When you start seeing someone as your brother or sister in Christ, something shifts in your heart. They stop being the opposition. They become family.

2. Hate What Is Evil and Hold Fast to What Is Good

Paul then moves into something that actually makes loving people easier. He says to abhor what is evil. To abhor something means you are steadfastly against it. The very sight or mention of it gets a reaction out of you because of how deeply opposed to it you are.

This matters for the church. It is easy to get soft on real sin while fighting hard over things that simply do not matter. A kosher diet does not make anyone more holy. But standing against genuine compromise, idolatry, and immorality has a real impact on the health of a church community.

When believers are clear about what God’s Word calls evil and hold firmly to what God calls good, it actually frees them to love each other better. Instead of fighting each other, they can stand together.

3. Start With Honor, Even When Love Feels Hard

So what do you do when you are struggling to love someone? Paul gives a practical starting point: show them honor.

To honor someone means recognizing who they are in Christ and choosing to give them preference over yourself. Paul told the Philippians the same thing: “Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.” – Philippians 2:3

Jesus put it simply as well: do to others what you would have them do to you.

Here is what happens when you start honoring people, even the difficult ones. Your love for them stops being an act. It becomes real.

Why Genuine Love Matters in the Church Today

The tension in the Roman church is not so different from what many churches experience today. People come from different backgrounds, different traditions, and different convictions. Disagreements arise. Preferences clash. And it becomes tempting to put on a polite face while keeping your distance.

But Paul’s call is higher than that. He is not asking for tolerance or civility. He is asking for the kind of love that sees another person as family, that honors them above yourself, and that is rooted in a shared commitment to what is genuinely good.

That kind of love does not come naturally. It requires intention, humility, and a willingness to ask God to change how you see people.

Life Application

This week, think of one person you have been struggling to love. Ask the Lord to help you see them as family, as a brother or sister in Christ rather than an obstacle or an opponent. Then find one specific, concrete way to honor them before the week is over.

As you do, pay attention to what happens in your own heart. You may find that the act of honoring someone begins to soften something in you that you did not expect.

Ask yourself these questions as you reflect:

• Is the love I show to people in my church or community genuine, or is it mostly surface-level politeness?
• Are there areas where I have been soft on real sin while making a big deal out of things that do not actually matter?
• Who is one person I can intentionally honor this week, and what would that look like in a practical way?

Let your love be real. That is the challenge and the call.

The One Question that Changed Everything

David’s life was anything but ordinary. From fighting off lions and bears as a shepherd boy, to defeating Goliath, to fleeing from a spear-throwing King Saul, his story is full of highs and lows. Yet through all of it, David never lost his heart for God. Psalm 25:4-5 gives us a window into exactly where that heart was, and what it looks like to truly follow God with everything you have.

What Did David Actually Pray?

Psalm 25:4-5 says, “Make me to know your ways, O Lord; teach me your paths. Lead me in your truth and teach me, for you are the God of my salvation; for you I wait all the day long.” – Psalm 25:4-5 English Standard Version (ESV)

Whether life feels exciting or completely ordinary, this prayer is one every believer can make their own. It reveals three powerful truths about what it means to walk closely with God.

Do You Have a Teachable Heart?

The first thing David asks is to be shown and taught God’s ways. This same request shows up again and again throughout the Psalms. David had a genuine hunger to know what God was doing and to draw closer to Him.

David knew something important about himself. He knew how easily he could wander. He understood that without continuing to grow closer to God, He would get Himself into trouble. And he did, more than once.

The truth is, we are no different. Left to ourselves, we drift.

There is a big difference between studying a map and actually taking a trip. Some people want to learn about God and do nothing with it. They collect information and knowledge, but it never changes how they live. Then there are those who want to actually walk it out.

The question worth asking is: which group are you in?

God has something incredible for each of us. He has a purpose that is bigger than we can imagine. But we can limit what He does in our lives by our lack of faith or by simply ignoring Him. When we faithfully put our trust in Him, He opens doors and creates opportunities we never could have manufactured on our own. But we have to be willing to walk through them.

Why Truth Matters More Than a Good Story

David did not just want to be sent on an adventure. He wanted to know the right way to go. He asked God to lead Him in truth, not in a puffed-up story or a comfortable excuse. He wanted to actually live for God.

One of the darkest moments in David’s story proves this. After committing adultery with Bathsheba and arranging for her husband to be killed, God sent the prophet Nathan to confront Him directly. David was king. He was beloved. He had every worldly reason to dismiss Nathan or silence him.

Instead, David fell on his face and repented. No excuses. No spin. He submitted to the truth, and it led him back onto the right path.

That is what a love for truth looks like in real life. It is not just something we say we value. It is something we submit to, even when it is painful and even when it costs us something.

What Does It Mean to Wait on God?

The third thing David expresses in this prayer is patience. He says he waits on God all day long, and His life backed that up.

When the prophet Samuel anointed David as the future king, David was still a young shepherd. He did not take the throne the next day. More than a decade passed before he was actually crowned king, and those were not peaceful years. He was being chased across the countryside by Saul and his army.

During that time, David had two clear opportunities to kill Saul and take what had already been promised to him. He refused both times. His reason was simple: he would not touch God’s anointed. That kind of restraint takes real patience and real trust.

There were moments when David made wrong moves, including fleeing to foreign countries when things got hard. But he kept coming back. He kept waiting on the Lord rather than forcing things to happen on His own timeline.

Three Things We Can Learn from Psalm 25:4-5

• A teachable heart: David consistently asked God to show Him His ways. He never stopped learning and never assumed he had it all figured out.
• A love for truth: David wanted to be led in truth, not comfort. When truth confronted him, he received it with humility instead of defensiveness.
• Patient trust: David waited on God even when the waiting was hard, long, and dangerous. He did not force God’s hand.

Life Application

This week, take David’s prayer and make it your own. Write out Psalm 25:4-5 somewhere you will see it every day, whether that is your phone, a sticky note, or a journal. Each morning, pray it sincerely and ask God to show you His ways, lead you in truth, and give you the patience to wait on Him rather than running ahead on your own.

Then pay attention. Where in your life are you collecting knowledge about God without actually walking it out? Where are you avoiding truth because it is uncomfortable? Where are you trying to force an outcome instead of trusting God’s timing?

Ask yourself these questions as you reflect this week:

• Am I approaching my faith with a genuinely teachable heart, or am I just looking for information that confirms what I already believe?
• When truth challenges me, do I receive it with humility like David did, or do I make excuses and deflect?
• Is there an area of my life where I am trying to force something to happen instead of waiting on God’s timing?

God has something incredible for your life. Do not limit Him by drifting, avoiding truth, or running ahead of His plan. Stay teachable, stay honest, and stay patient. That is the kind of heart God works through.

How to Dwell in His Presence

David is one of the greatest examples in Scripture of someone who truly understood what it meant to live in the presence of God. His life offers a powerful and practical model for how we can seek God not just in church, but in every season of life.

What Did David Say About God’s Presence?

In Psalm 26:8, David writes, “Lord, I love the house where you live, the place where your glory dwells.” He didn’t just acknowledge God. He loved being near Him.

David also wrote in Psalm 84:10, “Better is one day in your courts than a thousand elsewhere.” This wasn’t just poetic language. It reflected how David actually lived, whether he was out in the fields tending sheep, hiding in a cave from Saul, or ruling from the palace in Israel.

Through every season, David sought the presence of the Lord. Even in his failures and trials, he kept returning to God.

Why Should Christians Seek God’s Presence?

Seeking God’s presence isn’t about chasing supernatural experiences or emotional highs. It’s about staying connected to the One who sustains us.

Psalm 46:10 reminds us, “Be still, and know that I am God.” This is especially important during the hard seasons, when we feel alone, when we don’t have answers, or when circumstances feel overwhelming.

Learning to be still before God is one of the most important spiritual disciplines we can develop.

How Do You Seek God’s Presence in a Practical Way?

Start With Consistent Communication and Fellowship With God

The foundation of experiencing God’s presence is regular, intentional time with Him. That means daily devotions, prayer, and time in His Word.

David didn’t just want to know about God. He wanted to know God’s ways. He wanted to be taught, shaped, and led. But beyond learning, he wanted to simply be with God.

When David was out with the sheep, he would play his harp and sing to the Lord. He wasn’t in a church building. He was in a field. And God met Him there.

Seek His Presence Even in Difficult Times

When Saul was hunting David down and his life was in danger, David still sensed the Lord’s nearness. Throughout the Psalms, you can see him cry out things like, “My enemies are closing in, but there You are. You are faithful, Lord.”

God’s presence isn’t reserved for the good times. He is just as near in the cave as He is in the palace.

Remember That God’s Presence Shows Up Among Believers

In Matthew 18:20, Jesus says, “For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.” The presence of the Holy Spirit is real and available when believers come together with sincere hearts toward God.

Community matters. Gathering with other believers isn’t just a tradition. It’s one of the ways God makes Himself known to us.

What Does It Actually Feel Like to Experience God’s Presence?

It doesn’t have to be dramatic. It doesn’t have to look a certain way or feel a certain way.

Sometimes it’s as simple as sitting at your desk at work and suddenly feeling a peace that you can’t explain. Philippians 4:7 describes it as “the peace of God, which transcends all understanding.”

That peace is God ministering to your Spirit. It’s real, and it matters more than we often realize.

Why Does God Give Us Peace Before Difficult Seasons?

There are times when God pours out His peace and joy before calling us into something hard. It’s His way of preparing us, strengthening us before the storm rather than only in the middle of it.

Looking back, many believers can say, “I didn’t understand why I felt so at peace in that moment, but now I see that God was getting me ready.” That’s the faithfulness of God at work.

A Simple Prayer to Start Seeking God’s Presence

You don’t need a formula. You just need a willing heart. Try starting with something like this:

• “Lord, I want to feel Your presence today.”
• “I want to be aware that You are here with me.”
• “Speak to me, and minister to me through the power of Your Holy Spirit.”

That’s it. Simple, honest, and open. God honors that kind of prayer.

Life Application

This week, make one intentional change to create space for God’s presence in your daily routine. It doesn’t have to be long. It could be five minutes of silence before you start your day, a short prayer on your lunch break, or simply asking God to make Himself known to you as you go about your normal tasks.

The goal is not to add a religious habit. The goal is to cultivate awareness that God is with you, and to invite Him to speak, lead, and minister to your heart.

Ask yourself these questions as you reflect on this:

• Am I making intentional time to be still before God, or is my relationship with Him mostly rushed and task-oriented?
• When life gets hard, is my first instinct to seek God’s presence or to rely on my own strength?
• Have I ever asked God simply to let me feel His nearness today? What would it look like to make that a daily habit?

David was a shepherd, a fugitive, and a king, and he found God in all of it. You can too. Seek His presence today, wherever you are.

What Are You Putting Your Trust In?

When pressure mounts and you have no idea how things will turn out, where do you turn? Most of us have a default response. Planning. Worrying. Working harder. But the real question is whether you are putting your trust in God. Psalm 28:7 gives us a clear and powerful example of what that actually looks like.

What Does Psalm 28:7 Teach Us About Trusting God?

“The Lord is my strength and my shield; in him my heart trusts, and I am helped; my heart exults, and with my song I give thanks to Him.” – Psalm 28:7

David was not speaking in vague spiritual language here. He was speaking from real experience. He learned to trust God while tending sheep, fighting off lions and bears, facing Goliath, and running for His life from King Saul. Every one of those moments shaped his understanding of what it means to rely on God completely.

How Did David Learn to Trust God as His Strength and Shield?

When David was exhausted, God strengthened Him. When Saul was hunting him across the countryside, God shielded Him. There is even a moment where Saul and David were on opposite sides of the same mountain, and God prevented Saul from finding Him. That is not a metaphor. That is real protection for someone who had placed real trust in God.

Saul’s jealousy could not override God’s plan to place David on the throne. No amount of human scheming can cancel what God has already purposed. David knew this, and it shaped how he prayed and how he lived.

What Does It Mean to Trust God With Your Whole Heart?

The phrase “in him my heart trusts” might sound soft or sentimental, but it carries serious weight. God had all of David’s heart. Scripture repeatedly calls David a man after God’s own heart because He genuinely wanted His heart to align with God’s.

Proverbs 3:5 puts it plainly: “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding.” – Proverbs 3:5

That word “trust” in the original language means to lean, to put your full weight on something. Your heart, in this context, includes your emotions, your will, and everything that makes up your inner life. Trusting God means placing all of that on Him, not just the parts that feel manageable.

Why Is Trusting God Difficult, and What Temptation Should You Watch For?

Trusting God can feel uncomfortable. He works in ways we do not always understand, and He rarely operates on our preferred timeline. Maybe you have been praying about something for a long time and nothing seems to be changing. That waiting period is where trust is actually built, but it is also where the temptation to take over is strongest.

When God does not move as quickly as we want, we are tempted to force things on our own. And that almost never ends well.

Proverbs 3:6 says: “In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths.” – Proverbs 3:6

Acknowledging God in all your ways means staying in conversation with Him as you move forward. It means being patient. It means recognizing that He sees the full picture when you can only see the next few steps.

Does Trusting God Mean Doing Nothing?

No. Trusting God is not passive. It does not mean sitting down and waiting for something to fall from the sky. It means continuing to walk, continuing to pray, and being willing to step through the doors He opens. You keep moving, but you keep asking Him to lead the way.

The difference between striving in your own strength and walking in trust is not the amount of effort. It is the source you are drawing from and the direction you are looking for guidance.

How Do You Build the Kind of Trust David Had?

The answer is found right in the verse itself. David says his heart exults and he gives thanks with his song. He is remembering. He is recalling what God has already done and giving Him the glory for it.

When stress takes over, it is easy to fixate on the problem in front of you. David’s example shows us a different way. He thought back to when God delivered Goliath into His hands. He remembered the times God protected Him from Saul. That remembering fueled his praise, and his praise fueled his trust.

Why Remembering What God Has Done Changes Everything

Gratitude and remembrance are not just feel-good exercises. They are spiritual disciplines that reorient your perspective. When you remind yourself of what God has already done, you are building a case for why He can be trusted with what you are facing right now.

Your history with God is evidence. Use it.

Life Application

This week, take a few minutes to write down three specific times God came through for you. They do not have to be dramatic. Big or small, it does not matter. Then take a moment to thank Him for each one out loud or in writing.

After that, bring whatever you are currently facing to Him. Ask Him to be your strength. Ask Him to be your shield. And resist the urge to take back control when the waiting feels too long.

Ask yourself these questions as you go through your week:

• When things get hard, what is my first instinct? Do I turn to God or do I try to fix it myself?
• Am I leaning on my own understanding, or am I genuinely asking God to direct my path?
• What has God already done in my life that I have forgotten to be grateful for?
• Is there an area where I have taken back control instead of trusting Him to work?

God is not unaware of what you are going through. You are not hidden from Him. He will not forsake you. And He is more than capable of standing between you and whatever is pressing in against you right now.

Renewable Source of Life

If you’ve been feeling drained, unmotivated, or like nothing you try seems to fill the void, you’re not alone. Many people are searching for something that will truly satisfy. The good news is that Jesus pointed us directly to the source of lasting life, and it’s closer than you think.

What Did Jesus Mean by “Living Water”?

In John chapter 4, Jesus has one of the most powerful encounters recorded in the Gospels. He meets a Samaritan woman at a well in the middle of the day and offers her something she wasn’t expecting.

He tells her directly:

“Whoever drinks of the water that I will give him will never be thirsty again. The water that I will give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.” – John 4:14 English Standard Version (ESV)

Jesus wasn’t just talking about physical water. He was describing Himself as the only true and lasting source of life, joy, and fulfillment.

Why Was This Encounter So Radical?

To understand the weight of this moment, you have to understand the cultural context. Women in that time would typically gather water early in the morning or in the evening when it was cool. A woman drawing water at midday was almost certainly someone who had been socially rejected, someone trying to avoid others.

This particular woman had five husbands and was living with a man who was not her husband. She was on the outside of her community.

And yet, Jesus was specifically there waiting for her. Not only that, but He did something considered completely unacceptable in that culture. He, a Jewish man, spoke directly to a Samaritan woman. Jews and Samaritans had deep animosity between them, and for a man to initiate a conversation with a woman in this context was simply not done.

But that’s exactly who Jesus is. He crosses every barrier to reach people who feel like they don’t belong.

She Was Looking for Life in the Wrong Places

The Samaritan woman had been searching for something to fill her life. Whether it was through relationships, belonging, or acceptance, she kept coming up empty. Jesus saw right through to the heart of her situation and gently redirected her.

He told her that the day was coming when worship would no longer be about a specific mountain or location, but about worshiping God in Spirit and in truth. And in the middle of that conversation, He made it clear: He was the source of the living water she had been searching for all along.

The same is true for us today. Everyone is drinking from some kind of well. The question is whether that well runs dry.

What Are You Drawing From?

People chase all kinds of things hoping to feel more alive. Better health routines, new relationships, career success, entertainment, and more. None of these things are necessarily wrong, but when we rely on them to fill a spiritual need, they will always leave us thirsty again.

Jesus offers something completely different. A spring that never runs out. A source of life that doesn’t depend on circumstances, seasons, or how well things are going.

3 Ways to Apply This to Your Life

1. Let Jesus Meet You Where You Are

One of the most encouraging parts of this story is that the woman wasn’t looking for Jesus. She wasn’t on a spiritual journey. She was just trying to get through her day. And Jesus still showed up.

You don’t have to have everything figured out before you come to Him. You don’t have to clean up your life first. He meets you right where you are, in the middle of your mess, and He is willing and ready to help.

2. Stop Drawing From the Wrong Well

So many people are looking for happiness in places that simply cannot provide it. And the harder truth is that we cannot fix ourselves. Willpower, self-improvement, and positive thinking can only go so far.

When you come to Jesus, He fills you with living water. His Holy Spirit brings real joy and real life, the kind that doesn’t dry up when things get hard. And the beautiful thing is that you can return to Him every single day for the same renewal.

3. Live to Serve Others

Something powerful happens when you shift your focus away from your own problems and toward the needs of others. Serving people selflessly has a way of lifting the weight that drags you down.

When you stop chasing things that leave you empty and start pouring into others, you’ll find that the living water Jesus gives doesn’t just fill you. It flows through you.

Life Application

This week, identify one well you’ve been drawing from that keeps leaving you empty. Maybe it’s a habit, a relationship, a distraction, or a source of validation that never truly satisfies. Make a conscious decision to bring that need to Jesus instead. Spend time in prayer or in Scripture asking Him to fill that specific area of your life with His living water.

Ask yourself these questions as you reflect:

• What am I turning to when I feel empty, and is it actually satisfying me?
• Am I allowing Jesus to meet me where I am, or am I waiting until I feel “ready” to come to Him?
• Is there someone in my life I could serve this week that might help shift my focus outward?

Jesus is not asking you to have it all together. He is simply asking you to come. Stop drawing from wells that run dry. He is offering you a spring that never will.

The Truth About Loneliness

It is easy to scroll through social media and feel like everyone else has life figured out. Everyone seems to be smiling, thriving, and doing just fine. But if you are quietly suffering, feeling isolated, or weighed down by doubt and discouragement, this is for you. You are not alone, and there is a reason the Bible makes that point so clearly.

What Does the Bible Say About Jesus Understanding Our Pain?

Hebrews 4:15 is one of the most comforting verses in all of Scripture. It says, “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” (Hebrews 4:15, English Standard Version)

Jesus has not watched your struggles from a distance. He has walked through them. He knows what temptation feels like. He knows what it is like to be rejected, misunderstood, and overwhelmed. And right now, in whatever you are facing, He is with you.

Why Do So Many People Feel Spiritually Isolated?

Isolation is not just a social problem. It is a spiritual one. When people feel alone in their struggles, shame often keeps them from reaching out for help or prayer. Doubt creeps in, discouragement follows, and before long, turning to God feels harder than it should.

This is not an accident. Doubt and discouragement are two of the enemy’s most effective tools. If he can get you to doubt, that doubt leads to discouragement, and discouragement leads to isolation. The goal is to keep you from turning to Jesus.

Consider this: roughly 30% of all AI usage today is people interacting with virtual companions, fake relationships built inside an app. That number reflects just how deeply people are longing for connection and how afraid many are of the real thing. But retreating inward is exactly the opposite of what God calls us to.

How to Fight Isolation and Discouragement as a Christian

There are practical, biblical steps you can take when you feel alone, overwhelmed, or spiritually stuck. Here are four worth putting into practice.

1. Set Your Mind on Things Above

Colossians 3:1 gives a clear instruction: set your mind on things above. When we feel isolated or discouraged, the natural tendency is to look inward, to fixate on our problems or our pain. But Paul is pointing us in a different direction entirely.

Getting your mind above your circumstances does not have to be complicated. Open your Bible. Spend time in prayer. Put on worship music. Get around other believers. The point is to shift your focus off yourself and onto God.

2. Deal With Sin Through Forgiveness, Not Shame

Sometimes what keeps us stuck is unconfessed sin. Shame has a way of making us feel like we cannot come to God, but the opposite is true. 1 John 1:9 says, “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.” (1 John 1:9, English Standard Version)

If there is something you have been carrying, bring it to God. Confession is not about condemnation. It is the doorway to freedom.

3. Get Outside and Get Around People

This might be the last thing you feel like doing, but it matters. Getting outside, whether that means spending time in nature or simply being around other people, changes your perspective and your thought patterns.

Community is not optional for the Christian life. We were not designed to walk through hard seasons alone. Even when it feels uncomfortable, showing up around others is often the first step toward healing.

4. Start Serving Others

One of the most powerful ways to break free from the weight of your own problems is to pour yourself into someone else’s. Serve at your church. Volunteer at a food kitchen. Look for needs in your neighborhood or workplace.

When you serve, something shifts. Your perspective changes. You begin to realize that other people are struggling too, and your own problems start to shrink back to their actual size. The enemy wants to inflate your problems and make them feel impossible. Serving others is one of the most effective ways to push back against that.

Jesus Is Greater Than Whatever You Are Facing

No matter what you are walking through right now, Jesus is the author and creator of your faith. He is not surprised by your struggle. He is not distant from your pain. He sympathizes with your weakness, and He is present with you in it.

You do not have to have it all together. You just have to turn to Him.

Life Application

This week, choose one of the four steps above and put it into practice. Specifically, consider finding one opportunity to serve someone else. It does not have to be a big commitment. It could be a few hours at a local organization, helping a neighbor, or volunteering at your church. The goal is to get your focus off your own struggles long enough to remember that God is bigger than all of them.

As you do, ask yourself these questions:

• Am I allowing shame or doubt to keep me from bringing my struggles to God?
• Where have I been looking inward when I should be looking upward?
• Is there unconfessed sin I need to bring to God so I can receive His forgiveness and move forward?
• Who around me could I serve this week, and how might that shift my perspective?

You are not alone. Jesus has been where you are, and He is with you right now. Keep walking with Him.

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